Contents: Overview - Backplot - Questions - Analysis - Notes - JMS
Zack makes a discovery in the search for Garibaldi. Delenn's plan to attack the Shadows runs into trouble. Ivanova and Marcus attempt to solicit aid from more First Ones. Wayne Alexander as Lorien. Wortham Krimmer as Emperor Cartagia. Eric Zivot as Verano. Jonathan Chapman as Ambassador Lethke.
P5 Rating: 8.66 Production number: 403 Original air week: November 18, 1996 DVD release date: January 6, 2004 Written by J. Michael Straczynski Directed by John McPherson
On the other hand, if there's no way to get the Shadows to stop fighting and causing wars except by completely destroying them, the Vorlons may have reached the conclusion that the very existence of the Shadows means their philosophy can never take hold.
In "Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?" he appeared to have a significant presence on the "dream plane" (for lack of a better term) through which Kosh sent the dreams to Sheridan in "All Alone in the Night" and "Interludes and Examinations." It's plausible that that's where much of a Vorlon's consciousness lives; if so, Lorien may be capable of much more direct impact on the Vorlons than his physical presence implies. Whether the same is true in the Shadows' case is less clear, but the fact that the Eye at Z'ha'dum found Ivanova while she was in the Great Machine ("Voices of Authority") suggests that they too have some presence in that mode of existence.
The only evidence so far of Shadow influence is the assassination attempt against Kosh in "The Gathering," but given that the Shadows didn't try to touch Kosh until the Vorlon offensive in "Interludes and Examinations," the hallway meeting in "Signs and Portents" notwithstanding (Kosh initiated that confrontation too) it's more likely the Minbari warriors were acting of their own volition.
Oddly, in "Interludes and Examinations," Sheridan pointed out to Kosh that the Vorlons were legends, or wanted to be perceived as such. Did Kosh know that eventually Sheridan might have to combat the Vorlons?
Some renditions of the New Testament also show Jesus being whipped 39 times by Pilate, though that number doesn't appear in the Bible itself. The Apostle Paul was whipped 39 times, which was the maximum number under Jewish law, to ensure that miscounting wouldn't cause one to give more than 40 lashes.
You wanna go argue with Clarke, feel free.
Lemme just make one point here. In the handful of decades between the discovery of the atom, and its use at Hiroshima, we learned how to blow up substantial portions of the planet and render it uninhabitable. But it would've taken a lot of them, hundreds, to do the job. In the 50 years since then, with the development of thermonuclear weaponry, the job is even easier. It's been reckoned that you'd only need about 75 really decent sized thermonuclear detonations to render the entire continental United States dead and uninhabitable.
The shadows and the vorlons are *millions* of years ahead of us. We're talking differences in technology that are orders of magnitude beyond what we can hope to comprehend.
I think a planet killer eminently achievable.
There's some amount of escalation going on, obviously, which will be explained a bit more in upcoming episodes, but they've always been this way, it's your perception of them that's at odds. You fell for what they wanted you to see them to be.
It is always the one closest to where you live.
All I can figure is that the red Z'ha'dum lighting made it look a lot worse than it was.
Men seem to understand this less often than women.
Ah, the fun never stops....